"Emo Music"

DanBennett · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 21:50 Post subject: "Emo Music"

Ok am i totally retarded or what?

I'm sat here, listening to My Chemical Romance, AKA "Emo Gods"confused:

BUT - The lyrics to this song i love - its just the music i don't...
Anyone daring to do a cover of it? lmao

What do you people think of so called "Emo Music" anyways. Some are good some are pathetic. I more mean it as Meaningful emotional lyrics... Not "Lets find a vein" music lol.

}ElitE{Mike` · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 22:00 Post subject:

i don't see the lyrics as being that emotional, look at the lyrics to michael jackson songs, they are good i think, or stevie wonder. to be honest emo music just annoys me to be honest, i dunno some people find the lyrics very deep, but personally i don't

[AcAi].N!Ce · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 22:31 Post subject:

I heard they (the artists) claimed not to represent the Emo genre. According to them it was an idea of their producer.

Shikotsumyaku · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 22:51 Post subject:

MCR arn't emo gods.

"Emo" is not short for "Emotional." "Emo" does not mean Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional, despite what MTV has lead you to believe in the last few years. "Emo" is not sidebangs, tight pants, and male vocalists who sing like little girls about their failed relationships. "Emo" is not the use of diluted, meaningless metaphors and similes such as "My arms are like pinecones," and most definitely is not the rampant use of words such as "autumn," "heart," "knife," "bleeding," "leaves," and "razorblade."

I just thought I'd clear that up after all of these "definitions" in which I have encountered an unbelievable amount of people who try to pass off their blatantly false pretenses as fact, and are slowly infecting others with their high-horse, holier-than-thou bullshit. Because honestly, with your ridiculous definitions, Beethoven, George Gershwin, and Britney Spears are/was "emo bands."

Now, onto the real definition.

In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.

Often, more recently, this gets intertwined with post-hardcore, and understandably so - that's nothing to make an issue of, since well shit, at least it's close.

Since the late 90s, though, bands have been emerging in the vein of Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional, and the thousands of their clones. As far as I can tell, some lazy journalist somewhere, writing an article about them, decided "Well, hoff, no one knows what emo is anyways, so I'll call these bands "emo" - sounds more appealing than bubblegum pop rock..." and the spiral continued downwards into the current amalgomation of bands MTV has told everyone is "emo."

Somehow, people decided that "emo" meant "emotional," which is obviously bullshit, as 99% of bands make music to illicit emotion, which would make "emotional" a completely all-encompassing genre from classical to opera to pop to rap.

Hope that helps.

Taking Back Sunday, Senses Fail, and My Chemical Romance falls under the "horrible pop rock" genre, not the emo genre.

Rites of Spring is emo.

DanBennett · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 22:52 Post subject:

HIkaru:
I was just saying what i heard on the radio chart Wink

I don't care what Emo means to anyone, its what it means to me Smile

Shikotsumyaku · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 22:53 Post subject:

DanBennett · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 22:59 Post subject:

I didn't mean it to cause offense, I apologize.

Shikotsumyaku · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 23:05 Post subject:

}ElitE{Mike` · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 23:06 Post subject:

hmm well there must be a difference between emo music and emo people, because emo people seem to present themselves to me in tight jeans etc...yet emo music you argue isnt that.

how can you argue beethoven was emo, when he was before "In the early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore,".

You know i kind of feel sorry for the roots of "emo" music. Real music of this kind probably saw alot of effort into it, and now it seems the term is thrown around to describe anything that doesnt fit into the other social groups such as "chavs/greebos/trendies". Its a shame this happens. I listen to hip hop music, but the music i listen to is underground music, where artists don't want to be involved because they have realised how lame the mainstream is. They deserve the maintstream light but don't want to be categorized in the same group of artists rapping about "bitches and cars". When people ask me what kind of music i listen to, its hard for me to tell them without them judging me as a chav or something, whereas the music i listen to is nothing like the mainstream crap hip hop you hear today.

So yeh, my 2 cents, i feel sorry for artists whose music is being ruined by stereotypes and labels.

edit: how is it my fault katie, seriously i joke around the emo thing and then u get annoyed, so i make an apology and you don't accept it saying "no im not bothered" really, just for you to fish for some sympathy here...

i knew this thread would go this way so sorry...

Shikotsumyaku · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 23:11 Post subject:

I was joking o.o

Flamingo · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 23:17 Post subject:

jees...who cares, Emo,Emu,ER,Kiwi,LongJohn ..wtf..its music,chill out.
Cool

J · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 23:45 Post subject:

-=[UB]UnSTaBLe=- · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 00:09 Post subject:

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Emo is a subgenre of hardcore punk music. Since its inception, emo has come to describe several independent variations, linked loosely but with common ancestry. As such, use of the term has been the subject of much debate.

In its original incarnation, the term emo was used to describe the music of the mid-1980s Washington, DC scene and its associated bands. In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the DC scene and some of the regional scenes that spawned from it. The term emo was derived from the fact that, on occasion, members of a band would become spontaneously and strongly emotional during performances. The most recognizable names of the period included Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and, slightly later, Moss Icon. The first wave of emo began to fade after the breakups of most of the involved bands in the early 1990s.

Starting in the mid-1990s, the term emo began to reflect the indie scene that followed the influences of Fugazi, which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is the Reason put forth a more indie rock style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic in nature than its predecessor. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, as many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles.

As the remaining indie emo bands entered the mainstream, newer bands began to emulate the more mainstream style, creating a style of music that has now earned the moniker emo within popular culture. Whereas, even in the past, the term emo was used to identify a wide variety of bands, the breadth of bands listed under today's emo is even more vast, leaving the term "emo" as more of a loose identifier than as a specific genre of music

}ElitE{Mike` · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 00:16 Post subject:

lol what would we do without wikipedia...

Shikotsumyaku · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 00:21 Post subject:

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